If you think about it you don't have to eat to survive in any of the Fallout games so if you follow on this argument to the next step, well let's just say it just a point. The food and farming points are spot on but shouldn't really sway an opionion apart from the quality of the world building. He says 'To be honest, I liked it too' and I wonder how many hours he spent on the game back in the day and since. And I want to read good arguments and points well made. Reading with interest but not really impressed with the quality of Shamus' arguments.